Joe Dumars and the Detroit Pistons have become pretty familiar with this spot in the NBA draft.
For the fourth straight year, they'll pick between seventh and ninth.
This time it's No. 8 - and the Pistons hope their choice Thursday night will help avoid more trips to the lottery in the future.
Dumars, the team president, wasn't about to tip his hand before the draft, and the Pistons need contingency plans depending on who is available.
Last year, Dumars suspected shortly before the draft that Connecticut big man Andre Drummond might fall to Detroit at No. 9. Sure enough, the Pistons got him, and Drummond looks like he could be one of the league's most promising young players.